Later, assuming a really long shower, wouldnt the same thing happen in reverse? The main reason is that the 17T series shower cartridge is operated by 2 handles and the 14 series shower cartridge is operated by only 1. Part # DRP60400 . Refer to your local plumbing inspector or manufacturer for more details. This 1700 Series Cartridge Assembly boasts dual-functional volume and pressure-balance temperature control for maximum comfort. How does the 17T Thermostatic Shower cartridge compare to the Monitor 17 Series Shower Cartridge? | It's actually not necessary to set it and re-set it every time you take a shower. 325000188190. Basically if you have a Delta 17 series trim kit you can replace it with a Delta 17T series trim kit. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Danco 11002 17/18 Series Cartridge Gray for Delta Multichoice Tub & Shower at the best online prices at eBay! We offer expert help and many great products. Avoid the hassle of adjusting your shower handle's temperature limit stop up and down as the seasons change. 2023 A.O. Calling Delta is the best way to identify exactly what you need. Account; Cart Do we need a specific Delta tub spout instead of the Grohe in order for the volume control to work? Ferguson Enterprises, LLC. Go with a 17T. In a 17T series however, the cartridge senses the water temperature using a special temperature sensing material. It was a major job installing it to water source so I am stuck with it. Shower Hair Catchers, Strainers & Drain Covers, Find stem and cartridge sizes with the StemFinder, Find the perfect part for your next project, Washing Machine Supply line Connector Hose, Cartridge for Delta Kitchen and Lavatory Faucets with Diamond Seal Technology, Cartridge for Delta 1500/1700 Series Tub and Shower Faucets. During this type of adjustment you may experience a drop in water pressure from the showerhead. To be clear, both the 17 and 17T cartridges designed to keep the temperature of the water in a safe range. Remember, a shower is not something you change often so put some careful thought into your choice. Then you adjust a plastic dial as shown in the video. Sat: 9 am 6 pm EST. Fixing your dripping tub or shower faucet by replacing the cartridge will save water and keep you from buying an entire new faucet. The Tempassure 17T series cartridge does a better job keeping the temperature in exactly the range you set. The video below explains how the limit stop is set in both 17 and 17T Series tub / showers. Although functionally better, the 17T series cartridge is also more expensive to produce. Delta Faucet T17T451 SS Dryden One Handle Thermostatic Tub & Shower Faucet Trim. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Replacement Cartridge for Delta Shower RP32104 1500/1700 Series at the best online prices at eBay! The hot water pressure drops and you get a shot of cold. This means the 17T will give you a more consistent flow rate which will keep the water pressure high at all times, regardless of whether or not water is being used in another part of the house. The cartridge is grey and says #46463, Type P. There is a Brass fitting holding the cartridge in. It may look like a small difference but this is actually a 20% improvement! Cartridge for American Standard Single-Handle Cartridge for Delta 1500/1700 Series Tub and CARTRIDGE REPLACEMENT: Single Handle Valve Cartridge replacement for Delta OEM part # RP46463, BATHTUB AND SHOWER CARTRIDGE REPLACEMENT: Fits any 17 series tub/shower faucet that was installed after February 2006, ROTATIONAL LIMIT: Cartridge has rotational limit to help prevent scalding hot water, DIY: Fix a leaky faucet, and save money on water and energy, Compliant with California low-lead legislation. With a Monitor 17 Series if your cold water pressure drops the cartridge must compensate by dropping the hot water pressure. Delta is an industry leader for a reason. With Delta showers the Cartridge is sold as part of the Trim Kit and NOT as part of the Valve. Fixing your dripping tub or shower faucet by replacing the cartridge will save water and keep you from buying an entire new faucet. This means you won't need to adjust the temperature limit stop to account for seasonal differences in ground water temperature. Report this item Report this item - opens in new window or tab. Best Regards, Rosanna, Image Thumbnail, click to view zoomed product image. Thanks. This helps cover the cost of operation of our free blog. If I have 17 series in now trim and cart change I just switch out the cart to 17T without changing the trim? I recommend you give Delta call and see if they would replace it. It's our goal to make buying a faucet easy. by. This Delta Faucet RP46073 17 Series Cartridge Adapter can sit in the back of the rough-in valve without using the supplied screw. Im not sure if there is any kind of modification you could make or strategy your plumber could employ to help further achieve your requirements. It's not necessary adjust it on a daily basis. With a 17T cartridge thermostatic shower system you will have a more consistent water pressure which will make the experience more enjoyable. We now have pre-built Delta shower systems in black finish available for sale on our site! That is, as the hot water side temperature decreases due to the hot water heaters contents getting colder, wouldnt it then decrease the amount of cold water and increase the amount of hot, thereby keeping a constant 105F as long as possible? If you still have questions, please let us know! Delta pressure-balance valves use Monitor Technology to protect you and your family from sudden temperature changes. DANCO 10347 CARTRIDGE For Delta 1300/1400 Tub/shower Faucets - $17.67. I think you would want to get a licensed plumber out to assess your shower and weigh-in. Fits Delta 17 series MultiChoice tub and shower faucets. My Standard Workware:Carhartt Pants: http://amzn.to/2HAwrPKCarhartt Shorts: http://amzn.to/2FKRT46White Tee ("Stay Tucked"): http://amzn.to/2DuoARuLeather Gl. Both Delta Monitor 17 Series and 17T TempAssure Series shower valve trim kits come in many great traditional and modern styles, feature beautiful finishes, have a lifetime Delta warranty, and include dual temp and pressure shower handle controls. PrivacyPolicy&Security| I understand when I turn on the 17, it will simply balance pressure from both hot and cold sides and eventually the hot side will actually be hot from the water heater. Sometimes the trim sleeve may have to be removed also to get a better grip on the cartridge but it will slide out of the valve. 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